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Secret in the Dirt: Vision and Posture
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March 29th, 2010 - 10:35
Well, I have some different thoughts about the lag part but you are correct in your comments above. You may want to check out the Waggle Cup and Fade video that I did which addresses the reality of the action of Hogan’s elbows which (and I am saying that you are correct) is in contrast to the 5 Lessons prescription for the arms which I talk about here. The Pronation, Supination and Plane vid also touches on the orientation of the elbows also.
March 29th, 2010 - 11:16
also, turning your elbows in adds tension into the swing preventing lag later in the swing.
March 29th, 2010 - 11:56
mike, you have your elbows turned in (like in 5 lessons)but hogan never did that. please look at footage from paseodelnardo25 and it is clearly visible his elbows are relaxed. you must remember hogan wrote “power golf” but herb warren wind wrote 5 lessons.
March 29th, 2010 - 12:08
As the club begins to build up speed and the left hip makes the first move down the target line before it turns backward, the width of the stance will hold up just fine. If you have a tendency to lose your balance, your stance might be to narrow. w w w (dot) golferbreak80 (dot) c0m
March 29th, 2010 - 12:57
Hey Mike that is so true having the back straight as a board is bull.
I am five foot four so I dont bend over much, is that ok.
If I stand pretty much straight up is that ok, as long as I am on plane.
March 29th, 2010 - 13:42
I just wanted to add some extraneous comments; I am a driving range bum, so a couple of critical things for my swing is focusing on the ball until it’s gone. For me if I try to chase the ball with my eyes it throws my timing off. Also, the speed of my backswing is generally pretty slow(deliberate)…in other words rythmn!!
March 29th, 2010 - 13:59
It is pretty entertaining listening to you and the camera man! Great video!
March 29th, 2010 - 14:19
You are the John Madden of golf lessons.
March 29th, 2010 - 14:36
Well, I’m a switter. Part swing, but with a lot of right hand at the bottom. A hit inside a swing. But you can also hold off the hands and sort of stiff wrist it while you let the body ride forward through the ball. That is a strong block and as a method can be very effective. Tom Lehman comes to mind. Byron Nelson’s dip and hold action through the ball also comes to mind. How you move into the left leg dictates a lot. This is a topic that we could talk a long time about.
March 29th, 2010 - 14:45
hi ex here want to know your thoughts about a blocker and a swinger?
March 29th, 2010 - 15:36
been looking at the videos how are you not a pro
March 29th, 2010 - 15:42
Please keep the cameraman comments to a minimum.
March 29th, 2010 - 15:47
” SEVAM !” …. ” Mummy and Daddy are going to the club now” … “will you and your little friend be alright here alone ?” … ” I left cookies & milk on the counter ” … ” and remember stay away from the scissors & knives – we don’t want another incident again ” .. ” Nice Mr. Jefferies next door can help if you need to cut any thing.”
March 29th, 2010 - 15:50
Great stuff… lots a good points!! Very simplistic. One thing… it gets tough to watch when your camera man keep jumping in, interupting, and throwing you off topic. Keep it coming.
March 29th, 2010 - 15:52
Hey Mike, I’ve been watching several of ur vids and find your explanations to be JUST!CE=] And agree with ur end comment about Tiger as he keeps his head down well AFTER impact.
Just one query, have you some links for short game? Especially PITCHING (30-80m) because it’s limiting my scoring A LOT, struggling mostly in terms of contact->ball flight/trajectory control. But would you say the pitching action is just a mini full swing or do several adjustments need to be made?
Gazz
March 29th, 2010 - 16:06
Thanks for the compliment. Geoff Ogilvy’s posture this week while winning the World Match Play Chmpionship de me smile.
March 29th, 2010 - 16:44
Great tip using the menu:-))) I have had the problem of not seeing the ball correctly by trying to keep my chin up and back flat. Especially when I got my new glasses(smaller ones), my ball striking became more inconsistent. You are right, looking at Hogan’s swing, his back is slightly bent. I have only gone to the ranch trying this but this seems to have eliminating much stress on my back. Thanks again.
March 29th, 2010 - 17:00
lol sounds like that guy in happy gilmore
March 29th, 2010 - 17:42
I like Mike Autin’s swing. The arms work differently and the wrists go from bowed to cup on the way down which is opposite of what I do. Austin’s method packs more power, but requires more timing.
March 29th, 2010 - 18:35
What do you think about Mike Austin’s swing?
March 29th, 2010 - 19:03
You raise an excellent point. My first inclination is to agree almost entirely, but my next thought immediately would turn to equipment and realising that a taller person with longer clubs and more upright lofts should be able to get into similar postures acccordingly would both reap the gains and avoid the pains of a technique that fights, to a degree, the natural alignment of the spine.
March 29th, 2010 - 20:00
Sevam1, I’ve heard this argument before, and I’d like to ask:
Do you think the whole “tush out, back straight” posture is a position that would be detrimental to shorter golfers, but advantageous to taller golfers?
March 29th, 2010 - 20:05
I really enjoy your vids.
IMO swing=rythm
Forget every mechanical swing though and do what feels right to you. Your swing and rythm is like a finger print. Every person is unique and there is no one size fits all. Your swing is an expression of your own personality. When you just let it flow, it’s like a dance. It’s like a boxer that sees the punches coming in slow motion.
That’s how you get in the “zone” and play your best golf. Find your rythm and enjoy the moment.
March 29th, 2010 - 20:41
I am into simple. Respect your bodies natural curves. Right foot square left foot flared ala 5 Lessons. You should be comfortable erect in natural balance. I like the feet set at least shoulder width apart for most shots. Find this by just letting the hands hang down from the shoulders. They should interect the kneecaps. This gives you minumum width for most shots. Ball position under the left armpit for most shots. To aim I use my practice swing to feel my finish and orient my body.
March 29th, 2010 - 21:16
Mike – do you have any specific setup thoughts along the lines of reverse K or more level “on top of the ball” shoulders? I know a lot of modern instructors focus a great deal on setup, posture and alignment, but you seem more relaxed about it. Just wondering what specific guidelines you may have.