Comments on: Professor Richard Dawkins schools an ignorant fools delusion of atheist morality.

By: GorterPoss

GorterPoss — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:09:59 +0000

@intermender 1)What I meant by quest” is that certainty is the hallmark of Modernity and that the scientific method is in large part intended to be a method of achieving highly reliable, reproducible data with the goal of achieving certainty.
2) I never meant to hinge morality on absolute certainty but to hilight that rational morality can not be certain because morality is subjective.

I can see why you would think I might be a theist trying to preach. Alas, I am not.

By: intermender

intermender — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:47:41 +0000

@GorterPoss (1) Nope, science doesn’t assume a destination like absolute certainty, its pragmatic, objective, emergent with what works. (Again you attempt to inject absolutism into science with creationist definitions)

(2) Morality is an unknown. An unknown is subjective if you assume it is
subjective (your favourite theological tautology). A rational approach doesn’t assume anything therefore it objectively discovers morality appropriate to individuals.

I already explained this often!

By: GorterPoss

GorterPoss — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:40:58 +0000

@intermender I feel your impression that I am a theist has convinced you I am attacking science. I wasn’t linking science to absolute certainty, but rather modernity. Certainly, as you say, a genuinely scientific approach is not biased by the pursuit of absolute certainty and I agree with you.

In any case, I still don’t see how you can get an ought from an is, even if you have a scientific approach. You’re always going to have some sort of arbitrary axiom like happiness or utility.

By: intermender

intermender — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:26:05 +0000

@GorterPoss My thinking or impressions are irrelevant: i have referred to your own statements thoughtout which confirm your theism. And you are playing the same word games and repeating your already debunked position which you fail to acknowledge. So i will loop you back to the record, which in all its words and effort confirms merely that theology and the question is empty, and hasn’t added one jot beyond what Dawkins has already said. Im done with you: even your last post is solipsistic.

By: GorterPoss

GorterPoss — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:57:10 +0000

@intermender Why do you keep calling me “solipsistic?” You’ve been reading Hitchens haven’t you, heheheh.

By: VOD713

VOD713 — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:31:05 +0000

Thanks to Richard Dawkins now i feel a great relief, i dont have to believe in any religion because i have to, now i undestand more about life and this magnificent world than before… keep going Mr. Dawkins

By: hammer1727

hammer1727 — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:05 +0000

fuck that arab moron

By: myindigoessence

myindigoessence — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:51:26 +0000

I liked they way he removed his glasses right before commencing pwnage.

By: muhammadfuckedAkid

muhammadfuckedAkid — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:44:09 +0000

@GrudgyDiablo Dawkins is a legend,,,,,,his books are great also,,,,my fav,,,the god delusion.

By: muhammadfuckedAkid

muhammadfuckedAkid — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:52:56 +0000

@hammer1727 Yes hesounded and looked like a fucking raghead.
Maybe he thinks stoning women is moral.